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  List Reasons Why YOU Would NEVER Go Back To The "Truth"

  by minimus in

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  i recently saw my jw brother and sil and listened to them talk about poor sister sick(o) who has been diagnosed with major mental problems.

  she went to the doctor's and the doctor supposedly began to berate her out of the blue because she is a jehovah's witness.

  now the family wants to have the doctor formally rebuked for his so called "discriminatory comments".

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  Vernon Williams

  TSR,

  Hey....Welcome!

  Good thread to start in on the board, huh?

  Looking forward to your posts.....

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  To be "Apostate" you must........?

  by oompa in

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  i'm geting confused, and part of that is that the elders handbook seems to kind of leave this up to each congo in some ways, which is pathetic.

  we have all the other exact rules, lets have one here so faders do not accidentally cross the line.

  just recently was a great thread where the father was turned in by his wife for just getting c of c, and i don't believe he would have been df'd for that, or even reading that, but he chose to take a firm stand and he deserves respect for that.

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  Vernon Williams

  Apostate according to Vernon Williams:

  If you place Truth above Agree-a-bility you are an "apostate."

  O, it is just that simple. Do not make something simple complex, bro. The fact is the WT wants compliance and gulible acceptance. NOTHING in the Borg is designed to train a person to think or be self reliant. The gaol is to produce a group of beings just capable of changing thier own diaper....

  Your ARE doing great!! You ARE in Journey. And, because you are approaching Life, now, with increasing clarity you will do fine.

  Hell of a ride, ain't it?

  Take care,

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  Ok - All Hallow's Eve is just half a fortnight away.....

  by AK - Jeff in

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  do you believe in witches, goblins, ghosts?

  is there anything out in the shadows to really fear?

  is there a supernatural world out there?

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  Vernon Williams

  Jeff,

  There is a story...fairly long and interesting, that happened to my daughter's friend and her little girl: I will post that in a few days.

  My perception of "things uncommon" has gone through a change the last two years.

  I just accept the facts and walk in "un-knowing-ness" with a lot of comfort.

  Kinda cool....

  I'll get back with you on the story,

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  one in one out...odds of staying married...how long til you know?

  by oompa in

  1. jw
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  it has been sadly interesting to see fadingeld's and others experiences unfold...wife out the door pronto and some not.

  many here are still married, one in one out.

  i have basically had a sucessful unplanned fade.

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  Vernon Williams

  your wrote:

  "I really want to live, now..."

  Hey, bro that is a big improvement over a month ago when we were all worried over you.

  Now, with progress like that....anything is possible....

  Yours in this Struggle,

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  tired of being an apostate

  by Hortensia in

  1. jw
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  i'm tired of being an apostate, atheist, agnostic, take your pick.

  i was going to start calling myself a heretic, but then i decided to look up apostate in the thesaurus.

  look at all the lovely words we have to choose from:.

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  Vernon Williams

  Just think....

  As a JW you would have no choice at all....

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  I HAVE MADE A DECISION TO LEAVE

  by Maddie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i haven't been on jwd for the last few days as my good friend had her mum die suddenly and i have been spending time just being there for my friend.. i was shocked and saddened to hear that trevor and linda was a sham.

  it's sometimes hard not to become cynical with life and not trust anyone when this sort of thing happens.. i have made a big decision and i hope that i don't live to regret it.

  i have posted that i have been trying to "fade" as my son and his family are jw's and i don't want to lose them because of being shunned.

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  Vernon Williams

  Maddie,

  Best wishes: I think you are talking about DAing....

  I can not imagine being half in and half out of a room of insane people that want to drag you back into the room and beat you sense-less. That is what "fade" is to me.

  I broke cleanly with the WT in a forty five minute conversation. Walked to the end of my drive, talked to two Elders, we went to seperate directions at that momment, and I walked back to my door my own person.

  There will be some ups and downs.

  With you in this Struggle,

  Keep posting,

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  List Reasons Why YOU Would NEVER Go Back To The "Truth"

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i recently saw my jw brother and sil and listened to them talk about poor sister sick(o) who has been diagnosed with major mental problems.

  she went to the doctor's and the doctor supposedly began to berate her out of the blue because she is a jehovah's witness.

  now the family wants to have the doctor formally rebuked for his so called "discriminatory comments".

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  Vernon Williams

  There are about six million....if the WT figures are accurate.....

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  Would they kill us if they could?

  by reneeisorym in

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  if the law allowed, do you think jws would actually kill apostates?

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  Vernon Williams

  Re,

  I am convinced that the majority, the vast majority, of JWs would lie as a pledge of loyalty to the Borg.

  Anyone that will lie and justify it as pleasing to God is capable of ANYTHING.

  Nuff' said,

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  New to this Site

  by prodigal_son in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been a disfellowshiped joho (what i call jehovah's witnesses now) for 7 years and i still find it hard every single day!

  i have just recently reunited with 2 of my 4 sisters who have taken a stand just like myself!

  i encourage anyone who is struggling with the decisoin to leave or not to leave, but beleive me and the countless others, it was the best decision of my life!!!

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  Vernon Williams

  Just a brief welcome....

  Looking forward to your posts....

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  Taking responsiblity for our Recovery

  by purplesofa in

  1. jw
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  do you think you are responsible for you own recovery?.

  what warning signs are present when you go to a different plan?.

  do you really think you can heal from the jw expericance?.

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  Vernon Williams

  PS,

  I do not see the process of exiting the JWs as a "recovery" like AA or something.

  To me, and, I know it is different for everyone, I see it as "Journey." That is why I sign my posts, usually, "Yours in this Journey." We are travling and we, as JWs, entered a spiritual "Twilight Zone" through which we passed. In that "zone" we were exposed to a variety of insane propositions and were effected, more or less. However, we retained enough sanity to realize the bizarre enviroment and were either led (that is what happened to me, I believe) or thrown out of this Very Scary Place.

  "Recovery" indicates a sort of addiction. True, some may be addicted. Many Elders I observed were addicted to Ego Masturbation....

  Anyhow, just a thought or two before going "sleepy town."

  Yours in this Journey and thankful for the company of cool folks like you,

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